Thursday 19 July 2012

Micro dosing and Using Different Types Of Ibogaine

Ibogaine is the root of Tabernathe Iboga, a shrub that grows mainly on the African continent.
Iboga is processed from the roots of mature plants, usually at least eight years old.
The Bwiti use pure root bark but some clever westerners worked out a way to process the root into Ibogaine HCL, this is around nine to ten times stronger so is better suited to medical use as less needs to be ingested.
Ibogaine HCL is sometimes synthesised from vocangine another shrub, vocangine, pure HCL is mainly Ibogaine, this is just one of the active alkaloids.

The other preparation used for detoxifying is 'TA' or Total Alkaloids, this is a purified form of root bark but includes all the active alkaloids, not just Ibogaine. TA, sometimes referred to as Indra, is usually around 8% Ibogaine the rest being many active alkaloids.
TA is preferred by many and used sometimes for opiate detoxification.
Some believe because it is the whole extract it gives more of a psychospiritual experience, it is often combined with HCL.

Ibogaine root bark is around ten times less powerful then Ibogaine HCL, it is rarely used for detoxification purely because so much would be needed its inpracticle.
The main use for root bark is for boosters post detox, root bark can be used in small doses as often as neccasary to help control cravings and Post Acute Withdrawal Symptoms like restless leg syndrome, goosebumps, chills, anxiety etc
A booster dose would usually be around 250-1000mg daily.

It's usually advised to take a decent booster seven days after flooding too

Micro-dosing For Reducing Opiate Tolerance & Potentiating

Microdosing with iboga is a bit of a grey area with little research and only anecdotal evidence.
It can be used in small doses alongside opiates to reduce tolerance although this can be risky.
Iboga potentates opiates so must be used carefully and sparingly.
Iboga's Potentiating effect is something most providers don't want to become common knowledge for this very reason!

That said, I have micro dosed with root bark quite successfully to reduce my tolerance.
Taking 500mg of root bark an hour before an opiate dose... it's worth experimenting but I found I could take 3/4 my usual dose and wasn't withdrawing.

It's also possible to use smaller amounts of HCL or TA for acute withdrawal.
I used doses of between 250mg and 500mg over five days to get through a heroin detox.
This could be an option for anyone scared of flooding or unable to flood for medical reasons.

Please understand that the above is not really a tried and tested method and you need to do your own research!

5 comments:

Aiden said...

Hi there Sid,

I would like to ask your opinion on something.

For quite a number of years, I have been prescribed opiates for a long-standing pain condition. Due to tolerance development, my dose is "extremely" high (although the exact medications vary, the dose would always equate to the equivalent of around 500 to 800 mg. of morphine per day).

I barely get any effect from the medication due to my tolerance.

Someone suggested to me something very interesting, which is that Ibogaine has the ability to substantially reduce or reset tolerance. However, after doing much research, I realized that it wouldn't be practical for me to do a full "flood" treatment of Ibogaine often enough to make that a viable solution.

But then something very interesting was suggested to me on a different forum, which is that although for me to get a full flood often enough would not be practical, and therefore I probably wouldn't be able to reset tolerance to zero, what was suggested (because this could indeed be done frequently enough) is that perhaps I might every once in a while take a significant, yet moderate, amount (for example, like 500 mg. of Ibogaine HCI) a few hours after my last opiate dose (when I start to feel the early symptoms of withdrawal, which means the opiates are starting to leave my system and my receptors would start getting free), and although this won't reset my tolerance all the way to zero as a flood dose would, at least it would be able to significantly reduce my tolerance and it can also be repeated more often, when necessary. He said that he has seen it numerous times where pain patients would use this booster (although it is a very large booster), and as long as they took the Ibogaine after their last dose of opiates wore off, it should be able to reduce/reset tolerance by at least half (50% reduction in tolerance), so that I can now get a strong effect and from only half the pre-Ibogaine dose. Then, when tolerance builds up again, I can repeat the same procedure (which again, wouldn't be possible to do so often with a full flood).

Can I ask if anyone here has seen this work with people, and if so, how much dose reduction (i.e., tolerance reduction) can one expect from doing this (as opposed to a full flood which would likely reset to zero).......?

Thanks so very much for your help and consideration!

Blessings,

Aiden

Aiden said...

Hi there Sid,

I hope you are well.

For quite a number of years, I have been prescribed opiates for a long-standing pain condition. Due to tolerance development, my dose is "extremely" high (although the exact medications vary, the dose would always equate to the equivalent of around 500 to 800 mg. of morphine per day).

I barely get any effect from the medication due to my tolerance.

Someone suggested to me something very interesting, which is that Ibogaine has the ability to substantially reduce or reset tolerance. However, after doing much research, I realized that it wouldn't be practical for me to do a full "flood" treatment of Ibogaine often enough to make that a viable solution.

But then something very interesting was suggested to me on a different forum, which is that although for me to get a full flood often enough would not be practical, and therefore I probably wouldn't be able to reset tolerance to zero, what was suggested (because this could indeed be done frequently enough) is that perhaps I might every once in a while take a significant, yet moderate, amount (for example, like 500 mg. of Ibogaine HCI) a few hours after my last opiate dose (when I start to feel the early symptoms of withdrawal, which means the opiates are starting to leave my system and my receptors would start getting free), and although this won't reset my tolerance all the way to zero as a flood dose would, at least it would be able to significantly reduce my tolerance and it can also be repeated more often, when necessary. He said that he has seen it numerous times where pain patients would use this booster (although it is a very large booster), and as long as they took the Ibogaine after their last dose of opiates wore off, it should be able to reduce/reset tolerance by at least half (50% reduction in tolerance), so that I can now get a strong effect and from only half the pre-Ibogaine dose. Then, when tolerance builds up again, I can repeat the same procedure (which again, wouldn't be possible to do so often with a full flood).

Can I ask if anyone here has seen this work with people, and if so, how much dose reduction (i.e., tolerance reduction) can one expect from doing this (as opposed to a full flood which would likely reset to zero).......?

Thanks so very much for your help and consideration!

Blessings,

Aiden

Anonymous said...

iv been taking dyhydracodeine for 13 years and im desperate to stop.any help will be appreciated??

Anonymous said...

13 years of feeling nothing.failing health.and extreme shame.im the lowest I cud possibly be

Anonymous said...

Anonymous to anonymous: I know this a year since your post, but maybe this might help someone else out too. I've been on opiates of multiple forms from oxy's to copious amounts of heroin (non-introvenoiusly) for 2-3 years. And I've been detoxing for 6 days now. I anticipated my detox by stocking up on suboxone, but even that wasn't enough to kill the restless body and cold sweats completely. Even on the 4th and 5th day I was in cold sweats. I've been looking for info on the detox process and microdosing with LSD, but am coming up short so far. I've herd of ibogaine treatments before but don't really want to travel to do it. Conveniently enough though, I have a hefty supply of L. So I'm thinking about doing some rogue research of my own to see if it'll make any difference. I'll post my experiences, good or bad so that maybe it might help someone else out. Because I know how horrible the detox process is, makes me want to help others w/ the same problems. But either way, it does get a little bit better each day. One just has to keep running that through their mind constantly.