Showing posts with label clinic. Show all posts
Showing posts with label clinic. Show all posts

Monday, 23 July 2012

Ibogaine Treatment Centres & Sources

I'm writing this post in response to the enquires I get about seeking treatment and ibogaine.
I'll probably turn this into a page as opposed to a post to a blog post too

So, ibogaine treatment,

As ibogaine is illegal in countries such as the United States, most treatments are either carried out 'underground', there is a network of UG providers thougout the U.S, they usually operate by carrying out the treatment in hotels or their own homes.
This option is a bit hit and miss, there are some great, empathic, caring providers out there but there are also some horror stories about providers preying on desperate addicts, taking deposits and not following through with treatment, under dosing, over charging and a even few cases of sexual assault!

Legal treatments are carried out in Mexico and Canada, these are generally more expensive but if you can afford to then this is definitely the preferred option. As official clinics they usually follow guidelines, meaning medical staff on site, more staff, better organisation and accountability if things go wrong.

If you're serious about doing ibogaine then my biggest piece of advice is, research research research!

There is a huge amount of information online, reviews on clinics, support forums and medical papers. Go join Mindvox mailing list, join a Facebook ibogaine group and ask questions!

Any provider worth their salt will help out your mind at ease and answer any questions you have.

Elsewhere in the world, most countries have providers, I can help point you I the right direction if you want to message me or leave a comment.

From my experiences with it, if I could afford it, id pay for a proper treatment, DIY is difficult, dangerous and usually unsuccessful long term.
An experienced provider will help you from the first email through to long term abstinence strategies.

Some good forums worth joining:

Mindvox - The original ibogaine mailing list
Eboka forum - www.eboka.info

Ibogaine sources

IbogaWorld - trusted, reasonably priced, quality ibogaine HCL,TA and Root bark - www.ibogaworld.com

Simon Loxton - Simon is a provider and supplier based in Cape Town, South Africa, contact for more details
ibogaine.treatment@iboga.co.za

Cerebus Extract - Online ethnogen supplier, Ibogaine HCL along with ayahuasca, DMT etc...
http://cerberusextract.com/

There are other places to get Ibogaine from but I only have experience with these three

Ibogaine Providers:
UK Ibogaine info
Providers in Europe
Ed Conn, the guy who treated David in 'detox or die' doesn't work or live in the UK anymore.

I'll be updating this page with new providers and vendors as soon as I can verify their honesty and integrity.
The sources I list will always be respected, trusted sources/people.
The world of Ibogaine can me a bit of a minefield so I'll try to take the work out of it all for you!

Sunday, 19 December 2010

Treatment Options For Opiate Addicts


Realising you are addicted to anything is difficult and traumatic, admitting it to others is even harder.

I remember when it first dawned on me that the flu like symptoms I was getting when not using heroin were actually withdrawal symptoms!
I dealt with it by burying my head in the sand and taking more heroin....

It took a while until I was ready to actually deal with the situation and start looking for help.
I initially went to my GP and was prescribed methadone, a long acting opiate that's regularly used in the UK for heroin addicts.
I was fairly naive I guess, and didn't understand just how powerful a drug methadone is, typically heroin has a half life of around 1.5-7 hours, averaging at around 4, which means an average addict having to use at least twice a day, often more.
Methadone is designed to have a 15-60 hour half life, but it averages 22 which builds up in the body the longer you take it. There is a lot of variation person to person though and I  like many others found I had to split the dose over the day or I would be withdrawing by night time, this is one of the inherent problems of the 'one size fits all' treatment of addicts.
It's a myth that it gets into your bones, but it does sit in fat cells.

Methadone is the gold standard in opiate addiction treatment, even though it only has a 4% success rate!
It's cheap, can be prescribed by GP's without a home office license and gives users a chance to get they're lives together.

Methadone can also prescribed in an injectable form although it's rare now.

Newer drugs used in maintenance are subutex/buprenorphine/temgesic.
Buprenorphine is a partial antagonist as well as agonist, meaning it binds to the opiate receptors but also has a partial blocking effect meaning users can't get high if they take heroin (although many claim you can, especially on low doses)
It also means if buprenorphine is taken shortly after heroin the user will suffer precipitated withdrawals, the blocking effect will also render any opiates useless for around 24 hours, so trying to take heroin to stop the withdrawals will have no effect!

Back in the 80s diamorphine (pharmaceutical heroin) was prescribed to a small amount of addicts (notably at the stapleford clinic) and up until the late 90's private doctors would still prescribe too.

These are classed as 'out patient' or community treatment options and are usually combined with regular counselling.

Rehab is probably the most successful way to treat heroin addicts at the moment, although many people would argue otherwise.

There are different types of rehab and they vary enormously in length of treatment and philosophy.

If your lucky enough to be able to afford private treatment you can go for a three month stay at a beautiful retreat type centre that offers alternative therapies along side detoxification and counselling.
For most people though rehab means being admitted to an NHS style, two week, quick detox.
They provide varying levels of aftercare with most offering post detox rehabilitation in a halfway house or similar. (If you can get funding)

Most centers, private or not adhere to the NA philosophy of 'finding and giving in to your higher power'
In my opinion this is where a lot of them fall down, I don't believe in god, and as much as NA says otherwise it is the christian version of god they want you to accept.
I was brought up catholic, in catholic schools and had it rammed down my throat most of my childhood, maybe this is why I have such a problem with it.
It also seems a bit cultish, especially as during a detox you are so vulnerable, it always felt like they were trying to convert me whilst I was down and open to anything that might take the pain away..

There is no magic bullet for opiate withdrawal unfortunately..

When you get to rehab you will be seen by the doctor and given a full medical examination, they will look at your drug use and if your on methadone will reduce your dose over a period of a few days usually, way too fast for such a long acting opiate, the half life that has built up over years of methadone abuse means it takes WEEKS to leave the body and even when it has long term addicts will most likely suffer post acute withdrawal symptoms (PAWS)

Some centers use drugs like clonidine/lofexidine a blood pressure medication that reduces physical withdrawal symptoms, it unfortunately also makes you feel like your walking around in a space suit!

The better places will offer benzodiazepines to help take the edge off and to help you sleep, most wont medicate anything that will make you feel better though and tend instead to try and treat the symptoms.

These include quinine for cramps and restless leg syndrome, anti-diorreah meds, deep heat for aching muscles, lavender oil to help sleep, paracetamol and that's about it.

Unfortunately the only thing that will ever really get you through a detox is willpower, and that's something that cant be forced.

Other treatments include places like detox 5, that basically put you to sleep for 5 days while they pump you with naltrexlone to push the opiates out (and it costs a bloody fortune for the pleasure).
In Thailand you can go and stay with monks that physically purge you, and of course there's always ibogaine...!

I'm slightly biased but after numerous different treatments the only thing that has ever worked for me, withdrawal wise is ibogaine.

You can always try it Trainspotting stylee!
If your lucky enough to be able to beg borrow or steal some comfort meds (IE benzo's) or if your more organized, some dihydrocodeine so you can taper down this is probably your best shot.
The most difficult bit is cutting contact with using mates and most difficult of all, deleting all your dealers numbers and changing your phone number!
Not many people succeed doing it this way, like the film you will more often than not end up ripping the planks off the door and running out to score!

Willpower dear Watson..

Ultimately changing behaviours and habits is key to recovery, replacing the day to day grind of grafting for money, scoring and using is the biggest challenge and takes a lot of work, this is where long term rehabilitation has it's benefits.

Here are some of the main rehabs in the UK:


These two I've had personal experience with;

Clouds House, is a six week residential detox and rehab centre, its in Salisbury and is where most people from the south of the UK will be sent, I went there three times altogether and never completed for one reason or another, they offer opiate detoxification with Clonidine and it's philosophy is based on the Narcotics Anonymous 'abstinence' model.

City Roads is based in London and specialises in 'crisis intervention'.
They will take you on short notice if your in urgent need of detoxification. Stays are usually two weeks and they will organise three to six month residential or 'halfway house' type when you leave.


I haven't been to these centers;

Narcanon is based in Lea-On-Sea, it has a good reputation but they don't use prescribed medication to aid withdrawal, alcoholics will receive IV vitamins and all patients benefit from alternative therapies.
I thought Narcanon was based on Narcotics Anonymous but after more research it's a front for the church of Scientology! (See below) Which begs the question why is it called Narcanon?

EDIT: After a comment posted on here informing me that Narcanon is a Scientology based rehab I am adding this info too....
I didn't realise this, and I'm pretty shocked actually.. if you know anything about Scientology, other than that Tom Cruise is a member, it's that they use somewhat questionable tactics to get people into they're 'programme'.. They have a habit of exploiting the most vulnerable members of society and indoctrinating them into what basically amounts to a cult.. the biggest cult in the world!
So they are basically using a rehab as a front to induct new members! That's shocking! And immoral..!
I leave is to you to make your mind up on this one, but it's not somewhere I'd want to go!
In fact, the more I think and write about this the more angry I'm getting....

Charis is a London based rehab facility that offer long term support by using supported housing units and dorms for people that have been through detox.
I know people that have been there and it is apparently very good, residents start off sharing dorms and by adhering to the programme of group therapy and counselling gradually work they're way up to sole occupancy flats. They specialise in long-term recovery and the waiting list is very long.

Hope House uses a 12-step integrated abstinence-based model using a holistic approach recognising emotional, physical, educational and recreational needs. The project is women-only with an all-female staff team. Second stage treatment facilitates the transition back into the community. Provides a safe space - community living and peer support. Life skills are gained through participation in the running of the house and in decision making about domestic and community matters, resettlement and housing advice. Attendance at self-help groups - AA, NA. Day and aftercare programmes are provided upon completion of the residential programme.

It is possible to be detoxified as in in-patient in an NHS hospital type setting but the waiting list is very long and they have a reputation of not being particularly good.